Sports, Tech & Life with Scully (EP 775)

[Uncle Marv]
Hello friends, Uncle Marv here with another episode of the IT Business Podcast here in Orlando, Florida at Zero Trust World. And if you're watching the video, look who I ran into, my friend, Scully, is in my house. Holla.

Holla.

[Matt Scully]
Holla. Holla. You know, I don't know if you remember this, but after I think it was our second radio show or whatever we've done here, right?

I called you up and I said, Uncle Marvin, you've got to name this thing, Holla. You wanted me to change the name.

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah.

[Matt Scully]
I mean, Uncle Marv is cool.

[Uncle Marv]
What if you have an Uncle Marv? You know, here's the thing, though. I had already spent all the money to rebrand to the IT Business Podcast, and it started to stick, and I thought, well, maybe what I would do is do another show called Uncle Marv's Holla Back or something like that.

[Matt Scully]
But I got too busy. Well, I mean, the thing with Holla, for you, it's either a verb or it could be a noun, right? If Holla is the name of the show, it's a noun, but Holla, that's a verb.

[Uncle Marv]
Yep. That is true.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
I'm still working it out. Still working out all the details.

[Matt Scully]
We'll figure it out. And you can't do Holla Back. Otherwise, you're going to have to give Gwen Stefani the rights because she's the one that came up with the Holla Back song.

You can't trademark that, though. I don't know. I'm just looking out for you, Uncle Marv.

[Uncle Marv]
Got to check.

[Matt Scully]
I'm just looking out for you.

[Uncle Marv]
Got to check. And there goes the camera again. Is that on me?

Yeah. So this is a new thing since we last met. I got the camera, and so we'll try to get it straight back in here.

Switch over. Come on. Me?

Come on. You know I'm not going to edit this, so it is what it is.

[Matt Scully]
It is what it is. There we go. This could be a viral video for us.

[Uncle Marv]
We were almost there. It is just going back and forth. So anyway, we'll figure it out.

Yeah.

[Matt Scully]
Do I need to get closer? No. No.

[Uncle Marv]
So we tried that with Dawn Sizer, and it kept shifting to her. How's she doing? She's doing great.

[Matt Scully]
I like her.

[Uncle Marv]
She's doing fantastic. Maybe the camera thinks I'm prettier. Oh, there you go.

It probably does. No, it doesn't.

[Matt Scully]
Disgusting.

[Uncle Marv]
It does. But anyway, so... Forget the camera.

[Matt Scully]
All right. Let's just keep going. We don't need the camera.

[Uncle Marv]
So, man, it has been...

[Matt Scully]
has it been... has it been two years? It's been two years.

And the reason that I know that, because we didn't see you last year when we went to Fort Lauderdale for MSP Expo. Right. And the year before, we did.

Yes. So yeah, it has been two... You know, it's like, I don't think we live in that time anymore.

I think everything is post-Covid or pre-Covid, right? Yeah, pretty much. That's how we timestamp things, isn't it?

Oh, is that pre-Covid? Okay. Oh, that was a different life then.

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah.

[Matt Scully]
Now it's post-Covid.

[Uncle Marv]
That is true. And I had you and Amelia.

[Matt Scully]
Amelia was there, right?

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah. Yeah. Amelia's dynamic.

She's great. You know, she's... I think she's actually Right of Boom today.

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah. The overlapping conferences.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah. I don't think she's... Well, she's not on the traveling team anymore.

But she... I think she did the Connect... Was it last year?

I'm not quite sure. Maybe that was two years ago. But no, she came through for us.

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah. I heard she... It's not necessarily a desk job.

[Matt Scully]
No.

[Uncle Marv]
But there's certainly not the travel that she was used to before.

[Matt Scully]
I mean, she was... Every single week, she was at a different place. Yeah.

And she travels awesome, right? You know, like every... You see an awesome picture of some place.

You're like, wow, that's... That's in my hometown. I didn't even know that existed.

[Uncle Marv]
So, well, let me ask you this. I mean, you travel a lot and you've got a family. She had...

She's got a family. I'm not going to out her family. I know some people know.

How is that being on the road so much?

[Matt Scully]
So there's an answer to that. One is that when we travel, we travel like we go leave on a Wednesday and then we can come back on a Thursday night. That would say that's about 80% of the trip.

You know, it's... These shows are long and those are tough. It's tough, especially coming into Orlando because, you know, you get off the plane and you see everybody with their kids and they're going to Disney World and you're like, oh, my bad dad here is going to Orlando by himself, you know, it is tough.

I do the own scheduling and I tell my team I don't want anyone missing birthdays or holidays, you know, and if we are, we have to reschedule or have somebody else go into it. I mean, that's a... That's a big thing.

[Uncle Marv]
But that's where it really gets tough because, I mean, yeah, this type of a trip. So you probably flew in Monday or yesterday, right?

[Matt Scully]
Actually, no, this was... I have one long trip every year and this was the long one.

[Uncle Marv]
This was the long one.

[Matt Scully]
So I flew in Monday last week to go to the MSP Expo. Now, up northeast where I live, the weather is just so bad out there that, you know, at that I would leave on a Friday but only come back here on Monday. So I was like, you know what?

I could fly to New York, you know, fight the weather and, you know, have two days at home and then on Monday I have to turn around and get on another flight.

[Uncle Marv]
And why not stay here and enjoy? The weather was pretty good.

[Matt Scully]
I will tell you why not because, you know what, I went to Miami, all right, and the weather was beautiful. I mean, this is probably one of the most... This is like San Diego weather, you know, down here, you know, the winds, the sun.

I just... I forgot how expensive Miami is. I could not believe how expensive Miami is.

[Uncle Marv]
Well, thanks to all the northerners coming down and buying up our properties. Yeah, that's true. So I did hear a thing and just a side note here.

Local radio station was doing a... They recapped a local story that came out and I guess there was some organization that did a study of the most expensive places to live. Yep.

And so they calculated the percentage of mortgage and rents to salaries. Okay. So they were saying that South Florida, Miami was the second highest where 56% of your paycheck went to pay for your rent.

Okay, so tell me, what's the first one? I'm dying for this one. New York.

It couldn't be New York. 64%. Was it maybe Fairfield County or Westchester County?

I don't know. I got to go back and listen to it.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah, I think it might be.

[Uncle Marv]
Because I would have thought it was California.

[Matt Scully]
I don't know. I mean, besides the coast, I know Fairfield County, which is where I live, it's really, really expensive. And we get everybody...

In other words, if you are making money in New York City and you want to have a yard, you move to Connecticut or New Jersey. And so Westchester County, which is the county between Fairfield County and New York City, I can see that being the case, yeah. You know what I read though, the other day?

[Uncle Marv]
What?

[Matt Scully]
I read that ages 44 and age 60 are the two most aging ages, meaning in a sense that you age the most you really feel.

[Uncle Marv]
Are you talking about between those two ages?

[Matt Scully]
Or at that age? I think it kind of makes sense.

[Uncle Marv]
Interesting.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
Because that's got to be for men. It's for men.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah. Because our midlife crisis is...

[Uncle Marv]
I would imagine it's 39 for the female.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah. Yeah. You said it.

I said it. Yeah. But, you know, I guess that's when midlife crisis has happened.

I don't know. But that's where... And I could see that.

I could see... I see myself who have been doing this for 10 years. So I turned 52 weeks ago.

And I'd say, yeah, like around 44, it was like, you know, you can't burn the candle at both ends.

[Uncle Marv]
Right.

[Matt Scully]
You used to be able to do so and be able to recover. You can't eat like bad. I don't know.

I can't say shit on this, but...

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah, you can.

[Matt Scully]
All right. You can't eat like shit. And then, you know, be able to feel good the next day, you know?

[Uncle Marv]
So that's probably about right. So I remember I was still playing ball, basketball.

[Matt Scully]
Basketball.

[Uncle Marv]
With kids, I would say. I mean, you know, a lot of them...

[Matt Scully]
When you say kids, 22 years old?

[Uncle Marv]
Well, yeah. So when I started, it was a bunch of us in our 30s that had, you know, we had gone out of college and stuff. We were professional.

And, you know, we were all the same age. But as we got older, we had to bring in younger kids. And so I found myself, at age 48, covering a 24-year-old.

And I'm like, what the hell am I doing?

[Matt Scully]
What are you, Larsa Pippen?

[Uncle Marv]
It was just ridiculous. But the problem is, I was like, can't somebody else cover him? They're like, no, man, you're the fastest.

Yeah. I'm like, okay, at 48, if I'm the fastest, we got a problem.

[Matt Scully]
Well, we saw this with Mike Tyson versus, was it Jake Paul? Whatever. I mean, you know, it's sad how boxing, I mean, when I grew up with boxing, that was a big bond with my father and I.

You know, we would watch Mike Tyson and, you know, it was like a hundred bucks and, you know, we'd invite the neighbors over. And it was always late at night, but that was a, you know, I was allowed to stay up late to watch the Tyson fight. And that fight gave that to us again, in the sense that preparation for it, you know, the cooking.

You know, we brought the whole team back to watch it. And you just saw basically elder abuse, you know.

[Uncle Marv]
It was sad. It was sad. But let me ask you this.

So with the way boxing was when we grew up, you know, if you think about it, Ollie, Larry Holmes.

[Matt Scully]
Marvelous Marvin Hagler.

[Uncle Marv]
Yep. Frazier.

[Matt Scully]
Oh yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do that.

Don't do that. I saw what you did there. No, Frazier wasn't part of my.

Okay. Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
No, Frazier was in the 60s. True. But I mean, if you think, if you take the 60s and 70s, and then we went through kind of a lull.

Yeah. And then we went through the Mike Tyson era. And that I think was the last golden age of boxing because I'll say this, who's the kid that won all the, that, um, um, Floyd Mayweather?

Yes. Yeah. Between him and Oscar De La Hoya.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah. It just didn't feel right. And, and now boxing is well, but here's my question.

Who ruined boxing for us? Mike Tyson because of what we came to expect when he walked into the rim or Floyd Mayweather who we knew boxed not to lose. Yeah.

[Matt Scully]
I, I, I, well, first I have to say that I want to disagree a little bit in saying that there wasn't a lull from the 70s to the 80s because you had that, that middleweight group of marvelous Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Tommy Hitman, Hern, Sugar Ray Leonard.

[Uncle Marv]
I'll give you that. Sugar Ray.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah. Those that, that carried that to that Mike Tyson era.

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah. But it wasn't at the same height though. I mean, it was good.

[Matt Scully]
Um, and then you say, okay, you know, when Tyson came back from being in prison, you know, it was like the boxing world seemed right again.

[Uncle Marv]
You're right.

[Matt Scully]
Um, it was, I think you're going to have to, the answer is Evander Holyfield. That's who ruined it. You know?

And I'll tell you why, because he was a better fighter than Tyson. Tyson and Evander Holyfield never got to fight in their prime. They were at the end of their prime and Evander Holyfield was better on those couple of things.

And he ended the Mike Tyson era.

[Uncle Marv]
He was, he was a boxer. He was a boxer. He was a boxer.

Mike wasn't a boxer. I mean, Mike just beat the hell out of people.

[Matt Scully]
I mean, you just remember, you know, like the white towel, the black shorts, the black, um, you know, uh, shoes and the look of intensity on his face. And I just remember just seeing his opponents, you know, just, they don't, they didn't realize what they were getting into. I mean, uh, Spinks, remember that one?

Yeah. Michael Spinks. Um, I mean, uh, Tubs, I mean, I mean, oh my God, those, those were some incredible, incredible fights.

[Uncle Marv]
It was interesting. So that's, yeah, it's, I remember looking back at that thinking, okay, we, we got to pay what we were done watching boxing. Kind of like what the NBA is going through now, where, you know, as, as great as it has been to watch LeBron survive for 22 years, I'm kind of like, you know what?

Move on, move on. And any of the young stars, I'm like, eh, the game isn't the same. It doesn't interest me.

The three point line has killed it. Yeah. Um, the all-star weekend, I could care less what they did.

[Matt Scully]
And that's, that's, that's on LeBron. Um, you know, when, when LeBron decided that he was going to stop participating, uh, Hart never participated in the, um, slam dunk contest that, that, you know, that takes away the superstars from watching the Superstar. I mean, there was something nostalgic upon reflection about watching Spud Webb and Dominique Wilkins go against Jordan and Jordan emulating the Dr. J dunk.

[Uncle Marv]
And um, well, here's where I see it. That was good. But you got an all-star game where they cared whether they won or lost.

For the last, what, 10, 15 years, you know, those guys are out there just to, just to showboat. Yeah. And I'm like, they don't care about who wins or loses.

They didn't play. I mean, those guys in the day, they would lock, they would play defense. Yeah.

They're like, you're not going to score on me.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah. Well, the way that they can fix that is, I think if we take a page from the major league baseball is that the winner of the all-star game gets four home games in the finals. You know, like in other words, so let's just say if Boston's playing Dallas and the West win that thing, I don't even think they have the West and the East Virginia, right?

[Uncle Marv]
I don't know. No, they did the teams.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah. That's so stupid.

[Uncle Marv]
They just got too cute. They tried to do what the NFL did when they got rid of the Pro Bowl, in a sense, but they went to the flag football, which to be honest, that still has a little bit of, you know, watchability, you know, Peyton and Eli, the skills competitions, but.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah, no, it's not the same.

[Uncle Marv]
It's not the same either.

[Matt Scully]
It's not the same. Wasn't it like flag football this year?

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah, it's been flag football the last three years, it's flag football.

[Matt Scully]
That sucks. I don't know, but let me ask you this, okay? If you had to pick your all-Uncle Marv team for the past 40 years, who would that be?

Which sport? 40, for basketball. Basketball?

Yeah. 40 years or so, no Oscar honors.

[Uncle Marv]
40 years? Jordan.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah, that's a good one.

[Uncle Marv]
Kobe.

[Matt Scully]
Really?

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah.

[Matt Scully]
Okay.

[Uncle Marv]
And I would probably do magic, bird.

[Matt Scully]
LeBron?

[Uncle Marv]
No. I would probably go either like a Karl Malone.

[Matt Scully]
The mailman.

[Uncle Marv]
Or, I don't know, it would have to be a strong power four. You're missing a center. Yeah, but I don't know if you need a center if you have a Malone or if you have...

Because magic can play center.

[Matt Scully]
Magic had to, remember? In the 1980s, yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
But you're right, if you had to go position by position, a center, Olajuwon.

[Matt Scully]
Over Shaq.

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah.

[Matt Scully]
Interesting.

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah, Olajuwon was better fundamentally. I think he actually did play better defense than Shaq. Shaq was just more intimidating.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
But Olajuwon, better footwork, more moves.

[Matt Scully]
I read that. You read the article about him the other day? No, I didn't.

Oh. So they were interviewing. This is a great story.

So Olajuwon comes to New York. For the first time, he steps out into cold weather. So this is, I want to say this was like maybe 1981 or something like that.

Okay. He's in cold weather. And it was so cold that he went back into JFK and went up to an agent and looked at a board and said, which of these cities is warm?

And she pointed to IAD, I think it was Houston. Uh-huh. And she pointed to Houston.

And he went to Houston, and that's where he went down there, and that's where he went to school. Yeah. But I would put Olajuwon at three.

Okay. And I would put Tim Duncan.

[Uncle Marv]
Ah, yes.

[Matt Scully]
Tim Duncan as the center. I definitely would put LeBron in there. I know LeBron's just not likable, you know.

[Uncle Marv]
Here's the thing. LeBron's a whiner.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah. Flopper.

[Uncle Marv]
He's a flopper. He doesn't really play defense.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
Yes, he's about moving the ball and getting other people involved, but I'll be honest, I want people that have that intensity and that killer mentality. He just never had it.

[Matt Scully]
He did. He did have it.

[Uncle Marv]
It was forced upon him.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
If Dwayne Wade had not talked to him.

[Matt Scully]
I agree. But, I mean, I remember when he was with the Cavaliers on the first run. I mean, yes, I do recall where he was accused of quitting against the Celtics.

[Uncle Marv]
So here's what I'd like LeBron up until that playoff run. They're in the finals, and you can literally see him stop playing.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
And that's when I'm like, okay, that's where the difference is between him and Jordan. Oh, yeah. Because there was no way Jordan was quitting.

[Matt Scully]
There will never be another Jordan.

[Uncle Marv]
And then, so that was number one. And to be honest, I never saw that until he did the decision.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
And that's when I'm like, okay, that was a problem.

[Matt Scully]
One thing about, first of all, there's always going to be people that are our age that are always going to say our era was better because we had the greatest athlete of all time.

[Uncle Marv]
True.

[Matt Scully]
It's so easy, and I have a brother that is 12 years younger than me, and he's no Jordan. He's no Jordan. No, Jordan was better.

And it's like basically our father saying, hey, he's no Mickey Mantle.

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah.

[Matt Scully]
So I get it. I've gone to appreciate LeBron, but I really, really feel, and I see this in this industry as well, when there's a lot of jilted brides, there's a lot of venom. And what this guy did was he knew that the decision of where he was going to be playing basketball the next year would have a major, the number one story, regardless of if it was sports or not, he knew it would have a major, major ripple.

So what did he do? He and his agent went to the Boys Club of Greenwich, which of all places, I don't know why you'd go there, but raised money for charity for it.

[Uncle Marv]
I mean, that's what he did, which that in itself is fine. Yeah. But what I found ridiculous is don't hold that decision over the organization.

Yeah. Because in my mind, and of course it's hard to prove, although most people believe it, he knew he was leaving. Of course.

Then why make the spectacle of it? And why hold the city hostage?

[Matt Scully]
I think ESPN said that we were going to give a lot of money to a charity, and you know what, we're going to do it. And I bet you when the book comes out, the documentary comes out, the 30 on 30, there is going to be regret for the way that he did that. I mean, he was vilified.

He was vilified. Yeah. And, you know, again, next night you got him, Bosh.

The three kings of Miami. And, you know, doing this, doing this, not three, not four, not five.

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matt Scully]
Sound like Howard Dean. Remember Howard Dean?

[Uncle Marv]
Yes.

[Matt Scully]
We're going to South Carolina. We're going to take back the White House. But, yeah, you know, we are watching greatness.

I mean, and it's at the end of his career. Again, another thing that is going to, you know, not stain a legacy, but hurt it is the whole Brani thing.

[Uncle Marv]
Yes. And, again, if you just take it at face value for what it is, in and of itself, a dad and a son playing together. Yeah.

On the same court at the same time. Great. No problem.

Love that. And I would be even okay with them just coming out and saying, look, we did the pick knowing that, you know, this was going to. But don't try to lie to my face and say that, oh, no, there was no, you know.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
It just wasn't the plan. But you got him a four-year guaranteed deal when the kid technically, as far as I can tell now, he's had a couple of good games, but he ain't ready. No.

[Matt Scully]
Not even for the G League.

[Uncle Marv]
To play. And you're going to guarantee. I mean, just be honest with me.

Just say, look, this is a favor to LeBron. Yeah. You know, for what he's done.

I mean, that's fine.

[Matt Scully]
I think what the major problem is that sports is supposed to be unwritten. You know, and when you alter that and you, you know, it becomes a play.

[Uncle Marv]
Right.

[Matt Scully]
You know, and as opposed to, you know, this team's playing this team. I'll give you a fine example. Her name escapes me right now, but there was a Makisha Sills.

She was at UConn, and she was two points away from setting the all-time women's record for UConn.

[Uncle Marv]
Right.

[Matt Scully]
Two points away. Well, she goes up for a rebound, falls back, and breaks her ankle. So in order for her to have that record, what they did was they, in the next game they did a jump ball, and she hobbled her way all the way to the basket.

They gave her the ball, and she put the two points in, and now she's the leader. It's not the way it's supposed to be.

[Uncle Marv]
No, but you know where that started?

[Matt Scully]
Where?

[Uncle Marv]
It started in Little League in high school, where the coaches would get together, and this kid, you know, who's never played a down in whatever, let's let him score a touchdown. Yeah. Which, when you're dealing with the Little League kids or junior high and stuff, great story, blah, blah, blah.

It's not going to have a huge impact. But you're right. When it gets to that level, that's a problem.

It's a problem. And kind of like Brett Favre falling for Michael Strahan on the sack record.

[Matt Scully]
I just don't know about that one. I mean, he was coming for him. He would have gotten it.

[Uncle Marv]
He would have gotten it anyway.

[Matt Scully]
And you saw the Mark Gassner thing?

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah.

[Matt Scully]
I mean, that was unfortunate to do that to that poor guy. Yeah. You know, like, I mean, Favre's coming over to him, you know, with his hand out extending his, hey, how are you?

Good to see you. And this guy just, you know, the guy has some very bad health issues right now. Right.

So his delivery and his communication can be misinterpreted as being rude. But I don't think that that was a play. I don't think that that was fake, you know.

[Uncle Marv]
All right. Let's move on to another sport. And folks, if you're hanging with us, this is obviously the channel sports.

[Matt Scully]
Channel sports, guys.

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah, exactly. College football. College football.

What do you think about the playoffs this year? I absolutely loved it. I absolutely loved it.

Did you love it because there was no SEC team?

[Matt Scully]
That would make a difference. Yeah. I loved it because, well, first of all, I'm a Notre Dame fan.

I loved it because the Ohio State fan base got exposed. And what I mean by that was that when they lost to Michigan, they completely, completely want that coach gone. And they talk about vilifying the coach.

Oh, my God. They destroyed that coach. And then that coach goes and wins a national championship.

And then they have to be like, he ain't so bad, you know. Well, and that's the thing.

[Uncle Marv]
In this finicky world, you know, I mean, for Ohio State and Michigan, it's literally those are your two objectives.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
Beat the other team and win a national title. And if you can't beat the other team, then you better win a national title.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah. I mean, Ohio State had a superior team from all around.

[Uncle Marv]
They did. They did.

[Matt Scully]
You know, I'm really excited to see, you know, talk about nostalgia. I'm really excited to see Manning next year.

[Uncle Marv]
A little arch in Texas.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
It should be good. But let me go back now and ask you about last year's college football playoffs. Florida State gets left out.

Alabama gets in. And the team committee basically said, well. Is that because of the injury?

The quarterback got injured. They're just not the same team. But I'm like, you know what?

Doesn't matter. They earned the right to get there. The team had done everything that year on their defense.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
You don't think their defense could have at least put up a better show than what was done there? I mean. I fully agree with you.

Here's the thing. There are some games where an upset happens. And ESPN will be like, you know, well, that's what happens in football.

You know, any given day. Didn't give Florida State that chance.

[Matt Scully]
I don't think people like Florida State. That's true. Most don't.

[Uncle Marv]
But we all know, and I'm going to say this for fear of, you know. I'm not a sports show, so I doubt they'll hear it. But I think ESPN sucks for basically being the pimp for the SEC.

Yeah, I agree with you. Pimp for the Big Ten. And the ACC is in that third or fourth layer.

When I find out how much money they give to the conferences. Well, no wonder. And that should not be allowed.

[Matt Scully]
I am so happy. I'm telling you. You can ask anyone that has known me for years.

I am so happy that these players are getting paid. You know what got me? I'll tell you.

Pinpoint it. When it really put it into perspective for me. Was back in 92-91.

Chris Webber.

[Uncle Marv]
From Michigan.

[Matt Scully]
Michigan. Part of the Fab Five. Part of the Fab Five.

Probably the best one of them. Yeah. Anyway, he was a high school freshman.

Excuse me. A college freshman. And what happened was he went to go get gas.

So, he goes to go and get gas. And he thought he had $20 in his pocket. He only had $17.

So, puts the gas. $20 worth of gas into the car. And gets up to the cash register.

Outside. It's cold. And he gives the attendant $17.

And the $17 wasn't good enough for the attendant. And he just basically said, you know, where's my other three? You expect me to pay this?

You know, that type of thing. And Chris Webber was just, he's like, I'm sorry. I thought I had $20.

It wouldn't have been such a bad story if the attendant wasn't wearing a Chris Webber Michigan jersey. You know, that's what made it. And I said, what these guys, these conferences, and these universities, what they've been able to get out of these athletes.

And then just go and discard them once they're done. And I love how they say, well, they're getting a free ride. They're getting a free education.

Okay.

[Uncle Marv]
Yeah, we know that half of them aren't there for that. And then, you know, room and board, yeah, that's nice. But it pales in comparison to the millions that those schools get.

And they claim that they use it to, you know, build the nice facilities and put together the nutrition programs. But what we're doing is we're overpaying coaches. And we're, you know, doing back office deals.

[Matt Scully]
Yeah, this is going to be a topic for another conversation on this. But in my opinion, we're going to see when millennials start paying for college. Like, in other words, we're going to start seeing that, oh, gosh, you know, maybe $80,000 a year to go to school isn't the best use of money.

You know, like.

[Uncle Marv]
Well, I think some of them are starting to see it because they're not getting jobs. Or they're getting jobs that they. They assume that 80 grand gets me a job that pays me 180 grand.

And, oh, where's the jobs? Why aren't they here?

[Matt Scully]
Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
Well, how about the fact that your degree didn't qualify you for the job you're applying for?

[Matt Scully]
Or how about you're 17 years old and you're asked to pick a career and pick classes when you just don't know. Right. You know.

[Uncle Marv]
The education system obviously does need to change, have more allowances. I think we need to go back and. My God, I can't believe we're doing a morals and ethics show.

Yeah, that's what we should do. But, you know, make the trade schools worth something. I mean, cheese and crackers.

We have so many trades that need workers. Yeah. Including this one.

I do. Yeah.

[Matt Scully]
Well, do we want to go down that road? No. No, we don't.

This industry could do better. Yes. Let's just put it like that.

It could be. It could be better.

[Uncle Marv]
All right. So, Skelly, we went a long time without talking tech. We've over 30 minutes.

30 minutes. I'll tell you, I felt like five minutes with you. I hope we do this again.

We should. Absolutely. We can't wait two years.

No, we're not doing this for two years. So, okay. So, here's the thing.

I promise, because I will say that it was probably my fault that I didn't find you at the expo. I was there. Okay.

I was on stage at the panel. I had a couple of events there. I just didn't make it to the vendor hall.

Or let me rephrase that. I made it to the vendor hall. I went as far as the coaching cafe.

[Matt Scully]
Uncle Marv is trying to say that he didn't make it to the peasant hall.

[Uncle Marv]
Because I didn't do a swag run or anything like that. He didn't want to see us.

[Matt Scully]
But I will... Oh, by the way, Lonzo was there. Really?

Yeah. I had a great conversation. Lonzo Mourning.

Center for the Miami Heat. I know who he was. Yeah.

[Uncle Marv]
I know who he is. Yeah. And I don't like him.

[Matt Scully]
No way!

[Uncle Marv]
No.

[Matt Scully]
Why? Are you a Larry Johnson fan?

[Uncle Marv]
No. No, I don't like him either. Grandma mom?

No, I'll tell you that story off the air.

[Matt Scully]
That's okay.

[Uncle Marv]
But yeah. So, I knew he was there. I didn't care.

Yeah, okay. But I will just say that's my fault. And I will make sure the next time, even if it's next Expo, I will find you and we will hang out.

And... Oh, Amelia doesn't travel anymore.

[Matt Scully]
No, we'll get her there.

[Uncle Marv]
Hey, bring her down. We'll do another night out and have some fun.

[Matt Scully]
That's awesome. Appreciate you, buddy.

[Uncle Marv]
Alrighty, sir.

[Matt Scully]
Thank you much. Thank you very much.

[Uncle Marv]
And that's it for this extended version of the Channel Sports Show.

[Matt Scully]
Holla! Holla!